BharatPremi
09-25 05:44 PM
No. It was changed in the middle of 2008. The DOS consulted with the Congress on this and came to the conclusion that there should be horizontal spillover before vertical. I don't want to go into whether this was right or wrong, fair or not. This is the current policy.
You can see ample evidence in the annual visa allocation once you compare 2005/2006/2007/2008 allocations. EB3-ROW and EB3-ICMP benefited till 2007 because of vertical spillover and EB2-I & EB2-C have been the beneficiaries of the horizontal spillover policy since 2008.
Thanks. I also do not want to drag us into that direction. Just for the sake of my satisfaction, may I ask to you or anybody here to put any link/doc for any memo or other USCIS doc which states this?
You can see ample evidence in the annual visa allocation once you compare 2005/2006/2007/2008 allocations. EB3-ROW and EB3-ICMP benefited till 2007 because of vertical spillover and EB2-I & EB2-C have been the beneficiaries of the horizontal spillover policy since 2008.
Thanks. I also do not want to drag us into that direction. Just for the sake of my satisfaction, may I ask to you or anybody here to put any link/doc for any memo or other USCIS doc which states this?
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jonty_11
06-29 03:46 PM
Thanks Andy for something authentic. What is VCO advisory? Does this advisory reset dates in VB?
VCO is the office within DOS.....and yes it can supercede a VB (as it says)
VCO is the office within DOS.....and yes it can supercede a VB (as it says)
ajay
02-26 05:12 PM
Will contribute again.
Even thinking most selfishly I can only think that contributing to the Advocacy Efforts will only save me money in the long run. Just imagine if I get my GC one year earlier due to these efforts - How much I will save -
No EAD for me and wife - Savings of $340 per year
No AP for me, wife and Son - Savings of over $1020 a year ( I always apply for AP
every year bcos I can't imagine being stuck here if there is an emergency back home)
This amount is only for one year - if GC drags ( most likely will.. without Advocacy) - do the math.
I feel contributing couple of hundred dollars is the least I can do.
I sincerely urge everybody to contribute whatever amount they can small or big -
Little drops of water make a mighty ocean (cliched it might sound but sums it up perfectly)
Just think you and your family had dinner at a restaurant this week. :)
Even thinking most selfishly I can only think that contributing to the Advocacy Efforts will only save me money in the long run. Just imagine if I get my GC one year earlier due to these efforts - How much I will save -
No EAD for me and wife - Savings of $340 per year
No AP for me, wife and Son - Savings of over $1020 a year ( I always apply for AP
every year bcos I can't imagine being stuck here if there is an emergency back home)
This amount is only for one year - if GC drags ( most likely will.. without Advocacy) - do the math.
I feel contributing couple of hundred dollars is the least I can do.
I sincerely urge everybody to contribute whatever amount they can small or big -
Little drops of water make a mighty ocean (cliched it might sound but sums it up perfectly)
Just think you and your family had dinner at a restaurant this week. :)
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GotGC??
05-16 04:23 PM
I'm ready to file AOS, while filling in the forms I realized that I have just one more page left in my passport which is valid for another 7 years.
- If I get a "new booklet" from the Indian Consulate, does it come with the same or different passport number?
- If it has a different passport number, does it affect the AOS application once the AOS has been filed with the previous passport details?
- If I get a "new booklet" from the Indian Consulate, does it come with the same or different passport number?
- If it has a different passport number, does it affect the AOS application once the AOS has been filed with the previous passport details?
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NolaIndian32
04-16 02:27 PM
We are up to 24 Members now!!
The first few Welcome Packages (T Shirt included) are also being mailed out today!!
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devahusain@yahoo.com
02-28 10:17 PM
My daugther's date of birth is 03/18/1988. We filed I-485 together in 02,June 2007. We all recieved I-140 approval and I-485 receipt.
I would like to know whether my daughter will age out in 03/18/2009 or 03/18/2010?. She is working as RN ( 2 year degree) in hospital under EAD.
Please send your advice preventing from age out issue.
I would like to know whether my daughter will age out in 03/18/2009 or 03/18/2010?. She is working as RN ( 2 year degree) in hospital under EAD.
Please send your advice preventing from age out issue.
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forever_waiting
01-12 06:39 PM
"Now why would i meet a lawmaker as a representative of IV if i believe what IV articulates impacts EB3 adversly"
shows your lack of understanding of advocacy. Grass-roots advocacy works from the ground up rather than top-down.
I am glad that after learning a few facts, your grievance has changed from "no one is doing anything for EB3" to "more should be done for EB3". thats a good start.
This "discussion" has been entertaining but its time to end it. Good Luck to you. And do try to participate in grass-roots advocacy - the way it is meant to be and not the way you understand it (i.e. others should do all the work while I complain).
Well what can i say it took less that 24 hours to get shot down again.
No one in EB3 is questioning IV's sincearity. What is being question is the approach which is impacting EB3
No one is yelling out a lie. What is being articulated (Not Yelled) is the impact of IV's direction
I have read IV's provisions and i have already stated in another thread that removal of per-country limits is a pipe dream and will never happen how many number of times it gets introduced in congress because it is there since immigration started and is the corner stone of US immigration policy
I will let the rest of your statement without comment because we are going back to the start of this discussion and is of no use name calling
shows your lack of understanding of advocacy. Grass-roots advocacy works from the ground up rather than top-down.
I am glad that after learning a few facts, your grievance has changed from "no one is doing anything for EB3" to "more should be done for EB3". thats a good start.
This "discussion" has been entertaining but its time to end it. Good Luck to you. And do try to participate in grass-roots advocacy - the way it is meant to be and not the way you understand it (i.e. others should do all the work while I complain).
Well what can i say it took less that 24 hours to get shot down again.
No one in EB3 is questioning IV's sincearity. What is being question is the approach which is impacting EB3
No one is yelling out a lie. What is being articulated (Not Yelled) is the impact of IV's direction
I have read IV's provisions and i have already stated in another thread that removal of per-country limits is a pipe dream and will never happen how many number of times it gets introduced in congress because it is there since immigration started and is the corner stone of US immigration policy
I will let the rest of your statement without comment because we are going back to the start of this discussion and is of no use name calling
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GoneSouth
02-28 02:40 PM
Average time to get certified in last one year for EB2 Chicago = 34 days
Average time to get certified in last one year for EB2 Atlanta = 84 days
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Average time to get certified in last one year for EB2 Atlanta = 84 days
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usirit
10-02 02:00 PM
Will the completion of the Backlogs Centers help a LC recently submitted? Will my status change if an audit is required? I am just worried for the "30 days" deadline to response to the audit letter. Just in case the letter has been sent to my employer and is still hasn't been open it. :( Am I asking too much if my LC was submitted on 08/06/07?
I've found some responses :) on the "Performance Report: Mar 28 2005 - Sep 30 2006" http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/pdf/OFLC_Report_v11_8-23-07.pdf posted by Macca on another thread.
This Saturday (10/06/07), I'll be reaching my 60 days "In Process" Status since 08/06/07 which will take me out of the first group of "efficiency" (< 60 days of waiting period) 66% at the Chicago Processing Center; now I am heading down to the second group (> 61 - 120 days) which manage 21% of the cases. Hopefully, I'll get out soon.... this is causing me so much stress....
Thanks anyways....
I've found some responses :) on the "Performance Report: Mar 28 2005 - Sep 30 2006" http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/pdf/OFLC_Report_v11_8-23-07.pdf posted by Macca on another thread.
This Saturday (10/06/07), I'll be reaching my 60 days "In Process" Status since 08/06/07 which will take me out of the first group of "efficiency" (< 60 days of waiting period) 66% at the Chicago Processing Center; now I am heading down to the second group (> 61 - 120 days) which manage 21% of the cases. Hopefully, I'll get out soon.... this is causing me so much stress....
Thanks anyways....
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gc_on_demand
04-06 02:15 PM
Nice post, i came to the US in 1996 for my masters, followed all rules to the T and got stuck. I am on my 4th AP and EAD (5th if you consider OPT). I think main problem is that we are trying to solve too many issues with limited ammunition. Start with a single point agenda for the short term...lets say recaptuing unused visas or something that is the least controvertial and focus on pushing it at every available opportunity. Currently we see a new proposal everyday and all they do besides encouraging debate (which is good) is motivate bystanders to distort the issue and divide the group.
Agree with 485Mbe4001. We should focus on recapturing unsed visas. I dont think so we will see CIR this year. Before other groups pushes for Anti h1b or gc laws. we should start somthing on recapturing or removing country cap. OR atleast some admin fixes. I understand CORE is waiting for time to do aggressive campaign but what if dont get CIR this year ? I think We are thinking to play only defensive game here. If some one try to hurt us in H1b or GC bill then we will do campaign. Lets do not wait for antis to start.
Agree with 485Mbe4001. We should focus on recapturing unsed visas. I dont think so we will see CIR this year. Before other groups pushes for Anti h1b or gc laws. we should start somthing on recapturing or removing country cap. OR atleast some admin fixes. I understand CORE is waiting for time to do aggressive campaign but what if dont get CIR this year ? I think We are thinking to play only defensive game here. If some one try to hurt us in H1b or GC bill then we will do campaign. Lets do not wait for antis to start.
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akhilmahajan
08-05 09:50 AM
Any updates on anyone's case.
Please share the information.
GO IV GO.
Please share the information.
GO IV GO.
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thess904
05-04 04:27 PM
1) Applied Date - OCT 07
2) Audit Date - Jan 3th, 08
3) Audit Reply Date - Jan 15th, 08
4) Category - EB2
5) Center - Atlanta
i am working directly to the client, it's very big company and my immigration people told me it's randomly pickup one no need to worry.
i asked them is there any time frame and they mentioned no set of time frame for audit cases
Hi! is this true? they are approving cases randomly? what happen to FIFO?
I guess one has to pray for luck ! Is there no reason to worry? What if your case has been denied after 13 months of waiting , that's really bad luck.
Thanks for the info. by the way.
2) Audit Date - Jan 3th, 08
3) Audit Reply Date - Jan 15th, 08
4) Category - EB2
5) Center - Atlanta
i am working directly to the client, it's very big company and my immigration people told me it's randomly pickup one no need to worry.
i asked them is there any time frame and they mentioned no set of time frame for audit cases
Hi! is this true? they are approving cases randomly? what happen to FIFO?
I guess one has to pray for luck ! Is there no reason to worry? What if your case has been denied after 13 months of waiting , that's really bad luck.
Thanks for the info. by the way.
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Kodi
05-08 08:13 AM
How long does it take for a decision under EB2? I know the usual is 90 days but from your experiances is there a chance of an approval earlier?
Thank you.
Thank you.
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gc4me
04-11 12:03 PM
:D
Rest Of the World [excludes India, China, Mexico and Philippines]
I am wondering what is ROW (in EB3) means?
I see some people wrting EB3 ROW. Looks like it's different from EB3.
I appreciate if some body can explain ROW as used in EB3.
Thank you.
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Rest Of the World [excludes India, China, Mexico and Philippines]
I am wondering what is ROW (in EB3) means?
I see some people wrting EB3 ROW. Looks like it's different from EB3.
I appreciate if some body can explain ROW as used in EB3.
Thank you.
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so far $300
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gg_ny
04-07 10:50 AM
I was wondering if any one in the core or other members think about the next step towards getting citizenship after passing the hurdles of getting the green card. If a person is here for 10 years and then get his green card (average period), then he need to wait for another 5 years to get the citizenship. 15 years for this process in a person's life is too much.
IV Core can push or lobby for a law which can make the person a US citizen, if he is living in US for 10 years legally without any issues and paying taxes for the entire period. It is just my idea.
This is a wonderful idea. Having waited for 10 years for green card, if one has to wait for 5 more years for naturalization (that allows one to vote in the elections), then it is indeed an utter discomfort. We need something like IV but with a different name: NaturalizationVoice (it would be envy -NV- of all in IV ;-)) to campaign for immediate ready-to-serve naturalization of highly skilled (like Saralayar, of course) permanent residents.. NV should also campaign for an amendment that would allow highly skilled immigrant turned naturalized citizens (eg. Saralayar) to contest as presidential candidates. If any such person wins, he or she could either ban immigration (at least for other high skilled people) or abolish waiting period for greencard.
IV Core can push or lobby for a law which can make the person a US citizen, if he is living in US for 10 years legally without any issues and paying taxes for the entire period. It is just my idea.
This is a wonderful idea. Having waited for 10 years for green card, if one has to wait for 5 more years for naturalization (that allows one to vote in the elections), then it is indeed an utter discomfort. We need something like IV but with a different name: NaturalizationVoice (it would be envy -NV- of all in IV ;-)) to campaign for immediate ready-to-serve naturalization of highly skilled (like Saralayar, of course) permanent residents.. NV should also campaign for an amendment that would allow highly skilled immigrant turned naturalized citizens (eg. Saralayar) to contest as presidential candidates. If any such person wins, he or she could either ban immigration (at least for other high skilled people) or abolish waiting period for greencard.
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forever_waiting
01-12 06:39 PM
"Now why would i meet a lawmaker as a representative of IV if i believe what IV articulates impacts EB3 adversly"
shows your lack of understanding of advocacy. Grass-roots advocacy works from the ground up rather than top-down.
I am glad that after learning a few facts, your grievance has changed from "no one is doing anything for EB3" to "more should be done for EB3". thats a good start.
This "discussion" has been entertaining but its time to end it. Good Luck to you. And do try to participate in grass-roots advocacy - the way it is meant to be and not the way you understand it (i.e. others should do all the work while I complain).
Well what can i say it took less that 24 hours to get shot down again.
No one in EB3 is questioning IV's sincearity. What is being question is the approach which is impacting EB3
No one is yelling out a lie. What is being articulated (Not Yelled) is the impact of IV's direction
I have read IV's provisions and i have already stated in another thread that removal of per-country limits is a pipe dream and will never happen how many number of times it gets introduced in congress because it is there since immigration started and is the corner stone of US immigration policy
I will let the rest of your statement without comment because we are going back to the start of this discussion and is of no use name calling
shows your lack of understanding of advocacy. Grass-roots advocacy works from the ground up rather than top-down.
I am glad that after learning a few facts, your grievance has changed from "no one is doing anything for EB3" to "more should be done for EB3". thats a good start.
This "discussion" has been entertaining but its time to end it. Good Luck to you. And do try to participate in grass-roots advocacy - the way it is meant to be and not the way you understand it (i.e. others should do all the work while I complain).
Well what can i say it took less that 24 hours to get shot down again.
No one in EB3 is questioning IV's sincearity. What is being question is the approach which is impacting EB3
No one is yelling out a lie. What is being articulated (Not Yelled) is the impact of IV's direction
I have read IV's provisions and i have already stated in another thread that removal of per-country limits is a pipe dream and will never happen how many number of times it gets introduced in congress because it is there since immigration started and is the corner stone of US immigration policy
I will let the rest of your statement without comment because we are going back to the start of this discussion and is of no use name calling
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rameshvaid
05-07 08:51 AM
It is good to see the combined Immigration community efforts are bringing results. However, it appears that no attention is being paid to raise the issue of children ageing out because of visa t the benefit under CSPA.
I hope some one from Immigration Voice leadership team will take a lead to highlight such issues also before the law makers.
My elder son also aged out in 2005, and fortunately, we had Canadian PR Card by then and he had to move out of the country. He had completed his three years of college in US and when moved to Canada had to loose one and a half years of credits as Canada did not recognize all the classes he had taken in US..
What a waste of time and money due to this broken Immigration sytem..
RV
I hope some one from Immigration Voice leadership team will take a lead to highlight such issues also before the law makers.
My elder son also aged out in 2005, and fortunately, we had Canadian PR Card by then and he had to move out of the country. He had completed his three years of college in US and when moved to Canada had to loose one and a half years of credits as Canada did not recognize all the classes he had taken in US..
What a waste of time and money due to this broken Immigration sytem..
RV
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chanduv23
09-20 11:27 AM
man after reading all these stories I am completely bummed out that I couldn't make it. Kudos to all of you who were there and thanks.
I thought u were coming to the rally :)
I thought u were coming to the rally :)
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satishku_2000
06-13 11:44 PM
It is indeed unfair to the people whose applications are struck in BEC forever. The people who are still stuck in BEC are the very first ones to enter the queue. The BECS are now processing oldest cases now.
My guess is dates are going to move back by september any way and the probability of one getting GC who files in next month before the dates move back is very low.
Most of us here have to get ready for 5 or 6 years on EAD any way.
My guess is dates are going to move back by september any way and the probability of one getting GC who files in next month before the dates move back is very low.
Most of us here have to get ready for 5 or 6 years on EAD any way.
Mr. Brown
09-29 04:28 PM
I saw that. Looks like you are trying to pimp for a lawyer. Learn to stand on your own 2 feet first.
All you have done is made a phone call to a lawmaker office. Before you start a poll go and meet your lawmaker and learn how to talk to lawmakers. That will be a good start.
What made you think that he was associated with a law office? What makes you an authority to ask people to stand on their feet?
Have you talked to your lawmaker(s)? If so enlighten us with the "learn how to talk to lawmakers" part of your crappy post.
I hope not all "senior" members share your optimistic attitude.
All you have done is made a phone call to a lawmaker office. Before you start a poll go and meet your lawmaker and learn how to talk to lawmakers. That will be a good start.
What made you think that he was associated with a law office? What makes you an authority to ask people to stand on their feet?
Have you talked to your lawmaker(s)? If so enlighten us with the "learn how to talk to lawmakers" part of your crappy post.
I hope not all "senior" members share your optimistic attitude.
BharatPremi
09-25 10:05 PM
Yeah, go ahead and request that.
Banning me is not the solution to your problems amigo.
You guys (EB3-I) need to understand that "sympathy" is NOT a tenable legal position.
Law is law, rules are rules.
You cannot be planning to tramp all over patiently waiting EB2-I folks and expect to get away with it. Of course, I and probably several other people will undertake all legal efforts required to fight this (illegal) request from EB3-I.
To the guy who lectured me on how great his experience was etc: I obtained my Masters in Mechanical Engg from Stanford. Of course, I am not going to tell you where I work and what I earn. You can speculate all you want about my "Skillz".
To the guy who assured me that I am sinning and God will punish me: No, I don't think so. Fighting for the truth, and trying to fight for and protect my legal rights is not a sin. Speaking the truth is not a sin. I did not make EB1/EB2/EB3 categories. The government did. I did not screw people to have them apply in EB3, they should have known better.
To the guys who say EB2-I folks do not care about them: OF COURSE they don't, you guys (EB3-I) are trying EVERY TRICK IN THE BOOK to have an advantage at our cost. This shall not stand.
To anyone from the EB3-I cabal who wishes to engage with me: Try, and I will debate your points, any subject, any time (no IT please, I don't work in that miserable industry), regarding what is legal and good for EB3-I and also what is illegal and bad (mostly for EB2-I).
Behind every visa number, is a person and most probably a family. Children. Parents. Spouses. Siblings. DO NOT preach to me that I don't know about the suffering. We each have our own suffering. I have mine. Unfortunately, I wish my suffering just involved my GC.
Do you really think that whatever frustrations poured down here by whomsoever will force USCIS to change mind or its operational procedures changed? If not then why are you screaming so intensively? If this is the level one can achieve after joining Standford then we should now starting to doubt about the real quality level of Standford. But do not worry we will not judge Standford based on your behaviour here.
People are pouring down their frustrations, ideas and possible solutions. One may be agree or disagree for a particular post/idea but upon disagreement no one should become uncivil.
Banning me is not the solution to your problems amigo.
You guys (EB3-I) need to understand that "sympathy" is NOT a tenable legal position.
Law is law, rules are rules.
You cannot be planning to tramp all over patiently waiting EB2-I folks and expect to get away with it. Of course, I and probably several other people will undertake all legal efforts required to fight this (illegal) request from EB3-I.
To the guy who lectured me on how great his experience was etc: I obtained my Masters in Mechanical Engg from Stanford. Of course, I am not going to tell you where I work and what I earn. You can speculate all you want about my "Skillz".
To the guy who assured me that I am sinning and God will punish me: No, I don't think so. Fighting for the truth, and trying to fight for and protect my legal rights is not a sin. Speaking the truth is not a sin. I did not make EB1/EB2/EB3 categories. The government did. I did not screw people to have them apply in EB3, they should have known better.
To the guys who say EB2-I folks do not care about them: OF COURSE they don't, you guys (EB3-I) are trying EVERY TRICK IN THE BOOK to have an advantage at our cost. This shall not stand.
To anyone from the EB3-I cabal who wishes to engage with me: Try, and I will debate your points, any subject, any time (no IT please, I don't work in that miserable industry), regarding what is legal and good for EB3-I and also what is illegal and bad (mostly for EB2-I).
Behind every visa number, is a person and most probably a family. Children. Parents. Spouses. Siblings. DO NOT preach to me that I don't know about the suffering. We each have our own suffering. I have mine. Unfortunately, I wish my suffering just involved my GC.
Do you really think that whatever frustrations poured down here by whomsoever will force USCIS to change mind or its operational procedures changed? If not then why are you screaming so intensively? If this is the level one can achieve after joining Standford then we should now starting to doubt about the real quality level of Standford. But do not worry we will not judge Standford based on your behaviour here.
People are pouring down their frustrations, ideas and possible solutions. One may be agree or disagree for a particular post/idea but upon disagreement no one should become uncivil.