she81
09-27 04:46 PM
Hmm, that sounds cool - consolidating the qualifications into a huge stack to make an impact. I second that.
This was discussed before and I cannot find it now..but here is an extension of the degrees idea.
1. Get everyone involved in the GC process to make a copy of their degrees/ qualifications/ certifications/ patents/ papers/ publications/ etc
2. Format it into standard size (perhaps A4)
3. Get a stamp on each of those sheets that says 'TRASH' or something else - maybe 'REVERSE BRAIN DRAIN' or 'KEEP TALENT IN THE US' - we can work that out.
4. Get each State Chapter to create a binder/ maybe more if we can get enough participation.
5. We can submit a copy of that to local congressman and senators. We can also put all states together and send that to the White House, perhaps.
This will take a lot of coordination from all state chapter...but it is doable.
Any thoughts???
Please don't shoot me down if you don't like it :) I just wanted to put my 2 cents in :p
This was discussed before and I cannot find it now..but here is an extension of the degrees idea.
1. Get everyone involved in the GC process to make a copy of their degrees/ qualifications/ certifications/ patents/ papers/ publications/ etc
2. Format it into standard size (perhaps A4)
3. Get a stamp on each of those sheets that says 'TRASH' or something else - maybe 'REVERSE BRAIN DRAIN' or 'KEEP TALENT IN THE US' - we can work that out.
4. Get each State Chapter to create a binder/ maybe more if we can get enough participation.
5. We can submit a copy of that to local congressman and senators. We can also put all states together and send that to the White House, perhaps.
This will take a lot of coordination from all state chapter...but it is doable.
Any thoughts???
Please don't shoot me down if you don't like it :) I just wanted to put my 2 cents in :p
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swami_nag
02-15 07:24 PM
1. If you are in IT field, you don't even have a grasp of software development lifecycle and the part QA plays in it. A good QA cycle is essential for a good quality product. It is your ignorance about software development cycle that makes you say good QA guys are not an asset for a good product and they are not smart as developers.
Well I am not a software engineer but I do understand the role it plays so I do know im not dumb. Thank you for your words of wisdom.but I wouldnt agree with the fact that people have to be flown in from other parts of the world for this, yes there are corner cases in every product validation cycle which needs really talented people the vast majority do not do that
A tenth grader with enough common sense can do good software development. India produces lot of people with good common sense and analytical thinking. That is one of the reasons for India's software boom.
IMO if you don't have a patent in your name, you are not high skilled enough.
2. How many consulting companies do you know do charge their candidates for filing H1 ? I haven't come accross any. It is illegal to do that. If someone is doing that, ICE is after them.
Do come out of your own imaginary world, I can forward you a dozen emails my wife gets from these so called messiahs of the IT industry. 3.
All I can say is you are as ignorant as some of the anti-immigrants in this country. You haven't seen the real world.Come out of your little world and look around to see the real world.
I am not anti-immigrant at all. There are good and hopeless people in every aspect of life , I see the H1-B visa or any employment based visa scheme as a prized posession and only the best should be allowed to lay claim on these ones which unfortunately isnt happening.
4. Yes, you are for whatever suits you. What about getting yourself a preferential treatment for H1B visa and GC ? Sounds good ?
No matter what I explain to you, you'd always be giving me a raw deal, I am not even going to explain myself.
BTW I am curious why you are referring to "consulting companies" as consultants. "consultant" and "consulting companies" mean different things.
OK thats a biggie I should have known better I'd be clear the next time around. Due apologies.
Well I am not a software engineer but I do understand the role it plays so I do know im not dumb. Thank you for your words of wisdom.but I wouldnt agree with the fact that people have to be flown in from other parts of the world for this, yes there are corner cases in every product validation cycle which needs really talented people the vast majority do not do that
A tenth grader with enough common sense can do good software development. India produces lot of people with good common sense and analytical thinking. That is one of the reasons for India's software boom.
IMO if you don't have a patent in your name, you are not high skilled enough.
2. How many consulting companies do you know do charge their candidates for filing H1 ? I haven't come accross any. It is illegal to do that. If someone is doing that, ICE is after them.
Do come out of your own imaginary world, I can forward you a dozen emails my wife gets from these so called messiahs of the IT industry. 3.
All I can say is you are as ignorant as some of the anti-immigrants in this country. You haven't seen the real world.Come out of your little world and look around to see the real world.
I am not anti-immigrant at all. There are good and hopeless people in every aspect of life , I see the H1-B visa or any employment based visa scheme as a prized posession and only the best should be allowed to lay claim on these ones which unfortunately isnt happening.
4. Yes, you are for whatever suits you. What about getting yourself a preferential treatment for H1B visa and GC ? Sounds good ?
No matter what I explain to you, you'd always be giving me a raw deal, I am not even going to explain myself.
BTW I am curious why you are referring to "consulting companies" as consultants. "consultant" and "consulting companies" mean different things.
OK thats a biggie I should have known better I'd be clear the next time around. Due apologies.
forever_waiting
04-19 05:02 PM
Thanks! Excellent coverage of the IV advocacy event...
Great to see a Congressman so strongly on our side.
India Abroad published this article about advocacy day event
India Abroad - April 15, 2011 (http://www.indiaabroad-digital.com/indiaabroad/20110415?pg=5&pm=1&fs=1#pg5)
and
India Abroad - April 15, 2011 (http://www.indiaabroad-digital.com/indiaabroad/20110415?pg=5&pm=1&fs=1#pg6)
Great to see a Congressman so strongly on our side.
India Abroad published this article about advocacy day event
India Abroad - April 15, 2011 (http://www.indiaabroad-digital.com/indiaabroad/20110415?pg=5&pm=1&fs=1#pg5)
and
India Abroad - April 15, 2011 (http://www.indiaabroad-digital.com/indiaabroad/20110415?pg=5&pm=1&fs=1#pg6)
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ganguteli
03-25 11:48 AM
Dear friends
For every one of us getting GC is a nightmare. Though USCIS follows a system, I feel it is not correctly followed. Also I noticed that people who have filed before the PERM process are really suffering. There are people who are in EB3, waiting for more than 9-10 years, keeping hope and anxiously waiting.
I feel that we should write to USCIS to clear all the pending GC�s (EB2, EB3) filed before PERM (March 31, 2005) need to be processed before they take up any cases filed in PERM.
This will certainly make the process rational.
Why don't we all campaign to ask for a time out on all immigration. Just stop all immigration until it is fixed. :D:D
Because accordiing to your post you want your geencard but do not want others who filed in perm to proceed further.
In my proposal, if I cannot get my greencard, then nobdy else should. This is more fair.:D
For every one of us getting GC is a nightmare. Though USCIS follows a system, I feel it is not correctly followed. Also I noticed that people who have filed before the PERM process are really suffering. There are people who are in EB3, waiting for more than 9-10 years, keeping hope and anxiously waiting.
I feel that we should write to USCIS to clear all the pending GC�s (EB2, EB3) filed before PERM (March 31, 2005) need to be processed before they take up any cases filed in PERM.
This will certainly make the process rational.
Why don't we all campaign to ask for a time out on all immigration. Just stop all immigration until it is fixed. :D:D
Because accordiing to your post you want your geencard but do not want others who filed in perm to proceed further.
In my proposal, if I cannot get my greencard, then nobdy else should. This is more fair.:D
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06-10 03:15 PM
Maybe we should tell NRA that lot of skilled immigrants will buy guns once they have GCs. That could be the fastest way for us to get some lobbying money. It could work faster then the message on "buying houses".
I have lived in Nevada before. I think in that state and many other western states (where guns laws are more liberal) you have to have passport, I-94 and utility bills proving you have lived in NV for 6 months. That's it. You don't need hunting license to get a gun license.
Here is the biggest irony:
IN order to own a gun, FBI needs only 2 days to check your background.
IN order to get 485 approved, FBI takes months or years to do a background check.
I guess green-card is a more lethal weapon than a handgun.
I have lived in Nevada before. I think in that state and many other western states (where guns laws are more liberal) you have to have passport, I-94 and utility bills proving you have lived in NV for 6 months. That's it. You don't need hunting license to get a gun license.
Here is the biggest irony:
IN order to own a gun, FBI needs only 2 days to check your background.
IN order to get 485 approved, FBI takes months or years to do a background check.
I guess green-card is a more lethal weapon than a handgun.
ianlock
09-13 02:14 AM
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so how would you best describe them then???
wake up and smell the real world pal...
my language stinks...oh no.... i used a bad word.... god forbid!!!
so how would you best describe them then???
wake up and smell the real world pal...
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jonty_11
10-17 11:39 AM
Gave in and sent PP by Fedex yesterday for Schedule A, grp 2 case.My attorney did not advise me to PP nor did a legally brain I turn to for advice. He said its likely that I would get approved even during retrogression.
But I decided its better to know sooner than later, preferably before spouse started using EAD, and if a miracle happens (who can prevent miracles?) the 485 could also get approved concurrently with the 140.... And because I have 13 days more before retrogression hits. And because I saw people reportiing really qiuck turn around after PP. My employer was willing to pay half as well...
Well plus I did not want to be stuck in the general EB2 pool (India) which looks like its a black hole. I have an approved labor from 2004 there.(yet to file 140 for that one)..so didn't see a reason to be stuck there with a 2006 PD.
I still wonder if my reasons were sane and if my hasty action mght prevent my spouse from working -- if the 140 gets denied...Well, we'll take it as it comes..it may mean goodbye to the US or something..
BTW as far as I know, retrogression doesn't start till November 1st.
Bluekayal
How did u change from EB2 to SCH A worker? wahts the basis for that?
But I decided its better to know sooner than later, preferably before spouse started using EAD, and if a miracle happens (who can prevent miracles?) the 485 could also get approved concurrently with the 140.... And because I have 13 days more before retrogression hits. And because I saw people reportiing really qiuck turn around after PP. My employer was willing to pay half as well...
Well plus I did not want to be stuck in the general EB2 pool (India) which looks like its a black hole. I have an approved labor from 2004 there.(yet to file 140 for that one)..so didn't see a reason to be stuck there with a 2006 PD.
I still wonder if my reasons were sane and if my hasty action mght prevent my spouse from working -- if the 140 gets denied...Well, we'll take it as it comes..it may mean goodbye to the US or something..
BTW as far as I know, retrogression doesn't start till November 1st.
Bluekayal
How did u change from EB2 to SCH A worker? wahts the basis for that?
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chanduv23
07-08 02:57 PM
One of my co-worker was in same boat. His desi employer revoked his I-140 when he took fulltime employement in 2005. He got his GC finally.
Thanks for the positive response
Thanks for the positive response
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FinalGC
09-08 12:05 PM
I believe sanju is right to a certain extant. However, I believe it depends upon how much of a close relationship you have established with your clients or per say other clients. Have you done good networking...check out LinkedIn, if not. I can guarantee that if you were to go alone...you could easily ask for at least 110-130/hr, however you may not be able to get the $180/hr, since the companies like IBM, Accenture, Deloitte have an established brand name.
This is something these firms have developed over the years. You will be competing your skills and your relationships versus their combined skillsets and knowledge database, their legal backings, their relationships (not just money) and their history. People are ready to pay for a Cadillac because it is a brand name, while for a Ford they willl not pay that much money.
The key is the relationship and the trust that your client will have with you, rather than your current company....if your company has a bigger and better relationship, you will have a herculean task of removing that and replace that with yours, by proving that you are worth the money. Once you establish the brand name and expertise and the legal backings...you too could get may be $140 or so, but will never be able to reach the $180 level.......This is the industry.
This is something these firms have developed over the years. You will be competing your skills and your relationships versus their combined skillsets and knowledge database, their legal backings, their relationships (not just money) and their history. People are ready to pay for a Cadillac because it is a brand name, while for a Ford they willl not pay that much money.
The key is the relationship and the trust that your client will have with you, rather than your current company....if your company has a bigger and better relationship, you will have a herculean task of removing that and replace that with yours, by proving that you are worth the money. Once you establish the brand name and expertise and the legal backings...you too could get may be $140 or so, but will never be able to reach the $180 level.......This is the industry.
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24fps
02-15 08:04 PM
No, it wasn't. The 1999 quota was exhausted in April 1999. Granted this is better than the situation today, but not by much as the quota was larger that year and the economy was smaller.
http://www.murthy.com/arc_news/a_h1quot.html
well i meant pre y2k , april 2009 was the year that indians were bought in for y2k
i have a friend who got an h1b approved in 97 in the last week of aug
They said the results are statistically significant, which means that you can extrapolate to draw conclusions about the entire H1 population.
well i dont know if they actually said that or its your own conclusions but eitherways i do know that most of the peepz working with bodyshoppers have souped resume's or have some shit going on .
when my bro got here to do his masters in 2005 , the masters quota was availble till about july
in about 2 years it became a lottery without the number of student intake doubling/trembling up to make it one
they were body-shoppers running multiple petitions on students through a well run fraud circuit which artificially created a shortage
Not really. They used one example of someone working in a gas station for shock effect. The main complaint from the anti-immigrant side about the report was not that the 20% rate was understated, but that the rate would have been higher if it had included anyone paying a Level 1 wage as well.
again i dont know if thats what the anti-immi's complain about or if thats your own conclusion but the fact is that they're racist and will always have something to cloak around and raise as an issue
but the fact of the matter is that when any fraud is unearthed with connections to the highly skilled worker , the whole "Brand equity" gets badly tarnished , it not only gives the Anti -Immi's more fuel but also sways public opinion in all quadrants
you cant separate the Anti-immi jingoism and the fraud committed through those Desi bodyshoppers ,
http://www.murthy.com/arc_news/a_h1quot.html
well i meant pre y2k , april 2009 was the year that indians were bought in for y2k
i have a friend who got an h1b approved in 97 in the last week of aug
They said the results are statistically significant, which means that you can extrapolate to draw conclusions about the entire H1 population.
well i dont know if they actually said that or its your own conclusions but eitherways i do know that most of the peepz working with bodyshoppers have souped resume's or have some shit going on .
when my bro got here to do his masters in 2005 , the masters quota was availble till about july
in about 2 years it became a lottery without the number of student intake doubling/trembling up to make it one
they were body-shoppers running multiple petitions on students through a well run fraud circuit which artificially created a shortage
Not really. They used one example of someone working in a gas station for shock effect. The main complaint from the anti-immigrant side about the report was not that the 20% rate was understated, but that the rate would have been higher if it had included anyone paying a Level 1 wage as well.
again i dont know if thats what the anti-immi's complain about or if thats your own conclusion but the fact is that they're racist and will always have something to cloak around and raise as an issue
but the fact of the matter is that when any fraud is unearthed with connections to the highly skilled worker , the whole "Brand equity" gets badly tarnished , it not only gives the Anti -Immi's more fuel but also sways public opinion in all quadrants
you cant separate the Anti-immi jingoism and the fraud committed through those Desi bodyshoppers ,
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zeusjerry
03-27 11:05 AM
How about getting somebody who already got his green card, and after getting the card created jobs or did some inventions.
In such a case, we can definitely contact some of the desi CEO's etc. I am sure that they will be sympathetic to our case ??
In such a case, we can definitely contact some of the desi CEO's etc. I am sure that they will be sympathetic to our case ??
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WeldonSprings
05-28 04:41 PM
Attention all EB2 and EB3 folks who have I-485 pending at USCIS-
Currently AILA is reporting that there are two bills pending for Employment-Visa Recapture.
1.Reuniting Families Act (S. 1085) Introduced in the Senate(*)
2. Senate Judiciary Committee to Hold a Hearing on the Uniting American Families Act(**)
Reference-(*)(**) www.aila.org/
The S.1085 in the US Senate caters to specifically recapturing visa numbers for employment based category; i.e. ALL lost visas from 1997-2007 in the employment based category.
Also to remember is that re-captured employment based visas can only be used in the employment category. They CANNOT be used; repeat CANNOT be used in the Family category; however the vice-versa is true; i.e. unused Family Visas can be used in the employment category as happened last year 2008.
The second bill Uniting American Families Act is in the US House. Though the intent of this bill is not the same as the senate bill S.1085 noted above; an amendment can be made to make it the same. Currently, they are scheduling a House hearing on 3rd. June, 2009 for that bill.
We need HIGH level of action on the above two bills from IV Core and the Community; because of two reasons-
1. Adminstration has CHANGED; so one cannot assume that things which happened in past years will be the same. i.e. No action will be taken by lawmakers on the Immigration front. Remember it is the Democrats and we are back in the good Clinton year politics (which passed AC-21).
2. We need our Green Cards soon. India is the ONLY nation where 80% of EB folks are waiting for two years or more after I-485 submission, given security checkas and pre-processing has already been made for applications pending for two years.
Thanks,
WeldonSprings.
2.
Currently AILA is reporting that there are two bills pending for Employment-Visa Recapture.
1.Reuniting Families Act (S. 1085) Introduced in the Senate(*)
2. Senate Judiciary Committee to Hold a Hearing on the Uniting American Families Act(**)
Reference-(*)(**) www.aila.org/
The S.1085 in the US Senate caters to specifically recapturing visa numbers for employment based category; i.e. ALL lost visas from 1997-2007 in the employment based category.
Also to remember is that re-captured employment based visas can only be used in the employment category. They CANNOT be used; repeat CANNOT be used in the Family category; however the vice-versa is true; i.e. unused Family Visas can be used in the employment category as happened last year 2008.
The second bill Uniting American Families Act is in the US House. Though the intent of this bill is not the same as the senate bill S.1085 noted above; an amendment can be made to make it the same. Currently, they are scheduling a House hearing on 3rd. June, 2009 for that bill.
We need HIGH level of action on the above two bills from IV Core and the Community; because of two reasons-
1. Adminstration has CHANGED; so one cannot assume that things which happened in past years will be the same. i.e. No action will be taken by lawmakers on the Immigration front. Remember it is the Democrats and we are back in the good Clinton year politics (which passed AC-21).
2. We need our Green Cards soon. India is the ONLY nation where 80% of EB folks are waiting for two years or more after I-485 submission, given security checkas and pre-processing has already been made for applications pending for two years.
Thanks,
WeldonSprings.
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paskal
04-09 04:41 PM
you are welcome to vent your frustration too...
I am from India and I agree this whole thing is overdone
But let people release their steam, you release yours. India is just a euphimism here for your native country
you can alos of course ignore the thread like i did for the longest time.
mainly, let's just try to be nice to each other, and try not to vent on others.
I am from India and I agree this whole thing is overdone
But let people release their steam, you release yours. India is just a euphimism here for your native country
you can alos of course ignore the thread like i did for the longest time.
mainly, let's just try to be nice to each other, and try not to vent on others.
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nrk
08-11 10:24 AM
I was current for 2 months in 2008, didn't get. lets hope for the best
Thanks nrk. I am keeping my fingers crossed. I was current for two months in 2008 but did not get. So hoping for the best this time but again I would not be surprised if I don't get it, especially looking at USCIS/DOS works.
Thanks nrk. I am keeping my fingers crossed. I was current for two months in 2008 but did not get. So hoping for the best this time but again I would not be surprised if I don't get it, especially looking at USCIS/DOS works.
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waitforgc1
06-12 11:57 AM
Ron Gotcher said something similar... they may be trying not take any more
applications from 2000-2009 until they finish the backlog. That may be one of the
reasons why they may have retrogressed to 2000. Just my 2 cents.
applications from 2000-2009 until they finish the backlog. That may be one of the
reasons why they may have retrogressed to 2000. Just my 2 cents.
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02-15 09:45 AM
that something is done to stop abuse of employees. I think they should also look at L1 visa also. There is no salary stipulation for L1. Companies pay what ever they want..... place L1 holders where ever they want....
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coolvigo
09-11 05:01 PM
Dont worry. In July we'll all be current again.
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WeShallOvercome
07-06 02:36 PM
They would just increase the fees , and we will paying them that money back.
State never looses...
Even in that case, all the benefits they were hoping to get from increased fees will be lost - and much more than that.
Average fee hike is $500 but average reimbursement of expenses would be atleast $1000
State never looses...
Even in that case, all the benefits they were hoping to get from increased fees will be lost - and much more than that.
Average fee hike is $500 but average reimbursement of expenses would be atleast $1000
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10-05 02:08 PM
I just sent an email to WSJ telling them to correct their misrepresentation.
gonecrazyonh4
05-24 04:44 PM
I totally agree with Arunmohan- We H4's are not considered basic human beings here, we are not allowed to work ,may of us experience difficulty in getting a drivers license, we cannot have an independent bank account- literally we are considered as without life. I do wish I came in here illegally, at least i see hope for illegals in these bills - what do H4 Visa holders have to wait for !!!
Hello ,
yesterday i was watching Cspan 2 and debate about immigration.one of the senator (i don't remember the name ) was telling about a story of a woman with six children migrated from some poor european country ten years back to America.unfortunately her husband died after coming here.She move on in life and went to idhao and opened a cattle ranch and brought up her children well.Now she is very proud and successfull business woman and mother of six grown ups whom i am sure will be well establish them selves.
i listened the story and thanked the God that she didn't came on H4 VISA.otherwise she couldn't achieve the same.
For H4 this land is certainly not land of opportunity.Rather i suggest all H4 including my wife to burn their masters in business administration degrees and PHDs ,start doing cleaning jobs like illegals and eventually apply for Z visa.
Nobody is listening to us on capital hill .H4 are inanimate objects who came here to USA to accompany their fellow husbands or wife.No matter if it is for one year or 30 years.
And in the end no reform for H4 in this bill and no hopes for getting GC to their spouse.
Hello ,
yesterday i was watching Cspan 2 and debate about immigration.one of the senator (i don't remember the name ) was telling about a story of a woman with six children migrated from some poor european country ten years back to America.unfortunately her husband died after coming here.She move on in life and went to idhao and opened a cattle ranch and brought up her children well.Now she is very proud and successfull business woman and mother of six grown ups whom i am sure will be well establish them selves.
i listened the story and thanked the God that she didn't came on H4 VISA.otherwise she couldn't achieve the same.
For H4 this land is certainly not land of opportunity.Rather i suggest all H4 including my wife to burn their masters in business administration degrees and PHDs ,start doing cleaning jobs like illegals and eventually apply for Z visa.
Nobody is listening to us on capital hill .H4 are inanimate objects who came here to USA to accompany their fellow husbands or wife.No matter if it is for one year or 30 years.
And in the end no reform for H4 in this bill and no hopes for getting GC to their spouse.